Black Fly Buzz

An open thread for Black Fly comments, questions & discussions…


  1. Jim Vidmar
    October 12, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    I rode the BFC for the first time last year. I rode a 26″ MTB, which worked very well for me. (I only own a road bike and an MTB.. I would have liked to ride a cyclocross bike, but did not want to buy one for just this event.) However, lots of people rode cyclocross bikes, which in my opinion are the best choice. I would not ride a cross bike… it’s not tough enough IMO. I encountered lots of rough road with large rocks protruding and also loose gravel, stone, etc.

  2. Gary McCartney
    August 25, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    What is the date of 2015 race?

    • BFC
      October 12, 2014 at 8:25 pm

      The 20th Annual Black Fly Challenge starts in Indian Lake, Saturday June 13, 2015.

  3. Marc
    August 12, 2014 at 11:58 am

    I would agree with the MTB choice. There are a lot of riders on cyclocross bikes, but a hybrid would not have the same ruggedness as a cyclocross (unless you have set it up that way).

  4. August 12, 2014 at 8:30 am

    I will finally be able to ride the BFC next year due to a change in employment. I was wondering which bike would be better for it – a Specialized hybrid (Crosstrail) or a Trek 26′ mtb? I was originally thinking the Trek but it looks like there is a lot of paved and gravel road on the course

    • Tequila Doug
      August 12, 2014 at 8:47 am

      my vote = the mtb

  5. Mike T.
    June 17, 2014 at 9:17 am

    Okay, here it is…

    (unoficial) Black Fly Challenge Fat Bike results:

    First, and only female finisher……. Janay Camp 2:47:53

    and for the men,

    1st place… Raymond Willard 2:03:26
    2nd Michael Collins 2:21:26
    3rd Bill Strohmeyer 2:36:44
    4th Dean Widay 2:37:21
    5th Nick Calogero 2:38:29
    6th Michael Tucker 2:38:30
    7th Shawne Camp 2:40:51
    8th Pat McFalls 2:50:59
    9th Jim Belknap 2:58:00
    10th Thomas Hall 3:03:06
    11th Philip Olin 3:04:29
    12th Joseph Henaghan 3:06:56
    13th David Wilcox 3:06:57
    14th Joshua Wilcox 3:07:48
    15th Mark Hanna 3:38:59
    16th Nate Kaercher 3:42:31

    It would be nice in the future if the Black Fly could compile these results. If I have missed anyone please let me know.

    With 17 finishers this year the “fat bike” non-category is by far the fastest growing segment as a percentage.

  6. June 13, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    Am I correct in thinking that you don’t get an actual physical shuttle pass? I just looked in my registration packet and there’s nothing there. I presume they have a list when you get to the shuttle?

  7. June 13, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Looking for a GPS friendly address or coordinates that will make getting where we need to go tomorrow as easy as possible. Anyone know what the best addresses to use are for both Inlet and Indian Lake?

  8. Brian Landenberger
    June 13, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Jay, is that morning shuttle still available? If so I’ll take it

    • Jay Chapman
      June 13, 2014 at 11:42 pm

      I very officially transferred it to Christopher Wilkes – see below- but if he doesn’t wind up needing it you are welcome to it.

    • Jay chapman
      June 14, 2014 at 7:10 am

      Looks like the pass is available, brian. Or whoever can use it. Jay

  9. Mike Ortman
    June 13, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Hello! I am looking for an available AM shuttle pass.
    Please email me at
    Thanks in advance!

  10. jerry
    June 12, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    Would really be nice to know the course conditions. Last update was 6 days ago. Have had days of rain since. Thank you

  11. Christophe Wilkes
    June 12, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Sorry. Wrong email address.
    I would need a morning shuttle pass if anyone has one for sale.

    • Jay Chapman
      June 13, 2014 at 7:06 am

      Sorry, responded to the wrong one… I bought a morning one I won’t be using so would be happy switch it to you

      • Christophe Wilkes
        June 13, 2014 at 8:23 am

        I would like to buy your morning ticket. How do we go about it?p

      • Christophe Wilkes
        June 13, 2014 at 9:57 am

        My email is Thx.

      • Jay Chapman
        June 13, 2014 at 10:17 pm

        Sorry- I’ve been out of circulation for the day. I haven’t had much luck finding an email address for organizers, so how about this: “I hereby transfer my morning shuttle pass to Christopher Wilkes.” I’ll be there with my wife on a tandem and if we don’t run into each other just give the $ to the race folks as a donation.

      • Christophe Wilkes
        June 14, 2014 at 6:05 am

        Hello jay, I ve found other arrangement so you can transfer the morning pass to Brian. Thanks again.


        On Jun 13, 2014, at 10:17 PM, “Black Fly Challenge™” wrote:

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  12. Christophe Wilkes
    June 12, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    I would need a morning shuttle pass if anyone has one for sale.

    • Jay Chapman
      June 13, 2014 at 7:00 am

      I bought a morning one I won’t be using so would be happy to sell it

  13. June 12, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    I have a return shuttle ticket for sale if anyone needs it.

    • Nicki
      June 14, 2014 at 6:21 am

      Is this still available?

  14. Danny
    June 12, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    June 12th, 9:42pm. I have a return shuttle ride available. Let me know.

    • Nicki
      June 14, 2014 at 6:18 am

      Is that return ticket still available? My ride just dropped out.

    • Nicki
      June 14, 2014 at 6:19 am

      Is this still available? My return just dropped out of the race.

  15. Brian Landenberger
    June 12, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    looking to trade an after ride bus trip for a morning bus trip.

  16. tomrn
    June 12, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Any updates on the road condition? Gotta be a mess after this weeks rain. What tires to run?

    • Evan from FL
      June 13, 2014 at 11:26 am

      Same here. I just took off 2.4 Schwable Hans Dampf (big knobbies) and put on 2.0 Schwable Furious Fred (semi-slick) based on the last update. Now not sure which will be better. I’m guessing the knobs will just clog with mud and add weight and the slicks will be loose in fast descents. So what’s the lesser of two evils?

      • June 13, 2014 at 10:01 pm

        I rode about 5-6 miles of it from Inlet around 4:00PM, using 42mm slick road tires. The main part of of the road was a little slippery, but fine. Sounds like it will get messy for a bit on the plains, but not too bad.

  17. gene cappelletti
    June 12, 2014 at 8:22 am

    I have a morning shuttle spot also for sale.

    • Brian Landenberger
      June 12, 2014 at 9:20 pm

      interested, contact me.

  18. bruce
    June 12, 2014 at 8:15 am

    I have a shuttle spot that I paid for but don’t need if you want to buy let me know

    • Jim Hans
      June 12, 2014 at 10:05 am

      I do need it…I can meet you somewhere in Indian Lake Sat am?

      • Gene
        June 12, 2014 at 1:44 pm

        Jim I got it transferred to your name.

    • j
      June 12, 2014 at 10:07 am

      I do …I can meet u in Indian Lake Sat am ?

      • bruce
        June 12, 2014 at 11:00 am

        I’m staying in Inlet Friday night we can meet than if your going to be around.

  19. Jim Hans
    June 12, 2014 at 6:58 am

    My ride to Inlet dropped out is the am shuttle still open?

  20. Eric
    June 6, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    Any course condition updates?

    • BFC
      June 6, 2014 at 2:03 pm

      The driving lanes are solid but the sides are a bit soft – typical for this time of year. (So stay out of the ditch!)
      If we don’t have too much rain before race day it could be very fast – again!

  21. shawn kelly
    June 5, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Is there a way to add a shuttle ride if i’m already registered?

    • BFC
      June 6, 2014 at 9:16 am

      Forward your registration confirmation email to info @ and, if there are still any left, we can add the shuttle to your registration.

  22. Marc
    May 24, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    I am coming to Inlet tomorrow to preride the course. Is the description you have up on the website detailed enough so I won’t get lost?

    • BFC
      May 24, 2014 at 12:48 pm

      No, so stop into Pedals & Petals first. Ted can tell you where the turns are and give you an Outdoor Guide with the race course map.

  23. adkrn
    May 6, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    Is there anywhere designated one could drop off a car in Indian Lake the night before?

    • BFC
      May 13, 2014 at 11:13 am

      No place designated but the race finishes at Indian Lake School. If you parked toward the back of one of the school lots it should be OK – just don’t park near the tennis courts or the church.

  24. Jim Vidmar
    March 6, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    I want to register… does anyone know what the morning and evening shuttle for $15 is all about? Is this a shuttle to the start of the race? If so, from where? Also, does the evening shuttle take you back from the end point back to the beginning point? Thanks. Jim

    • BFC
      March 10, 2014 at 2:21 pm

      The Shuttle takes racers from the finish to the start, either AM or PM, So this year the Morning Shuttle will pick up racers at IL School at 8am and take them to registration in Inlet. The Afternoon Shuttle will leave IL at 4pm and take racers back to Inlet.

  25. Jim Vidmar
    March 1, 2014 at 10:42 am

    What are recommendations for tire size for an MTB (26″ wheel)? Thanks.

    • Doug
      March 1, 2014 at 4:19 pm

      I was on fast rolling 2.2’s on my 29er last year and did alright (in top 10 overall-MTB) but people run wide knobbies down to CX tires on their MTB (which in my opinion there should be a rule if your bike has CX tires then you race in the CX field!)

      • Mike T.
        March 1, 2014 at 6:00 pm

        Doug, I completely agree with that. But when I asked about the possibility of a separate category for fat bikes for this years race the committee came back with the opinion that even though the tires on fat bikes are 4″ or bigger they are really just a mountain bike. That’s ridiculous. There is a reason people choose CX over MTB and it’s the same reason CX bikes are the bulk of the first 50 places in this race. It’s not about “geometry”, or the drop bars, but more about skinny, light, fast rolling tires. I just don’t understand the logic as applied by the race committee.

    • BFC
      April 8, 2014 at 11:43 pm

      USA Cycling categorizes Cyclocross and Mtb bikes separately. Racers are free to use whatever tires they wish within those categories. BFC racers are known to use all styles of tires on any style of bike. And we have plenty of pro racers that never ask us to be ‘tire police’ or ever complain about such things. If you want to go faster then use faster tires!

  26. Jim Vidmar
    February 27, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    When does registration close?

    • BFC
      February 28, 2014 at 1:01 pm

      Online registration at closes at midnight Thursday June 12.
      Pre-race registration is noon to 9p.m. on Friday June 13, at Pedals & Petals.
      Race day registration is 8:00a.m. – 10:00a.m. at Inlet Town Hall.

  27. Matt
    July 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    Who was taking photos at the finish line? I’d like to see those photos.

    • Gene
      November 23, 2013 at 8:06 pm

      The 2014 registration just opened and still no Fat bike category. There were at least twice as many Fat bikes as there were Tandem bikes last year with their own category. Why no Fat bike category yet???

      • BFC
        November 29, 2013 at 1:21 am

        The race committee could not be convinced of the need for a fat bike category for several reasons, but the main ones are:
        1. Because fat bike geometry is essentially the same as a mountain bike; and
        2. Some BFC fat bike racers actually told us they didn’t see the need for a new category because, in their words, “It’s just a mountain bike with fat tires.”

        AMBA has discussed organizing a fat-tire race for Inlet’s Frozen Fire & Lights weekend in February. How many racers could you bring for that?

  28. Matt
    June 11, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Where’s pat’s photos? They said Tuesday, it’s 9:30pm and still nothing?

  29. Steve R.
    June 10, 2013 at 9:22 am

    The race was great fun! Spinning through the mud at the end was pure joy! Thanks to all those who worked so hard to pull off this event. See you next year.

  30. Mike T.
    June 9, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    Hi… Just want to ask this question again now that this years race is over. There were 7 or 8 fat bikes in the race this year, and 4 tandems. The tandems have a class of their own and it would be awesome if you could see your way clear to create a class for the fat bikes as well for next year. If you could make that decision relatively soon and get the word out I believe it could attract other riders who may not otherwise do the race. There was a lot of buzz at the race this year about the fat bikes and I could easily see 20 or more for next year especially if they had their own class. There certainly doesn’t need to be any money involved just a little recognition of their presence would be great. Thanks for your consideration.

    • Doug
      June 13, 2013 at 8:22 am

      Also, might as well add a SingleSpeed category, and how about a MTB on Cross bike tires category too?

    • BFC
      June 13, 2013 at 11:05 am

      We discussed a Fat Bike category at our BFC meeting this week and are seriously considering it but no decision yet. We’ll keep you posted.

  31. Kristen
    June 7, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Hi, does anyone know what the last few days of rain have done to the course? Is it looking like 2011 or is there minimal impact?

    • Matt
      June 7, 2013 at 5:21 pm


  32. Jan Andrews
    June 4, 2013 at 10:08 am

    First time rider, training was derailed a little, but I really want to toe the starting line , however feeling unprepared, I can bike about 25 miles in an hour and a half, but it has been pretty flat terrain. Am I crazy to attempt this, I am taking a lot of comfort knowing there is a sweeper truck!! Feel like I may be walking up some hills, hoping I am not the only one!!

    • Raoul.castaneda
      June 7, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      You can do it.

  33. John S
    June 3, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Does anyone know whether we will be able to send our extra unneeded gear, t-shirt, etc. back to Inlet on the shuttle bus we take to Indian Lake?

    • BFC
      June 4, 2013 at 10:26 am

      We can’t guarantee the same busses will be used for the AM & PM shuttles and therefore can’t guarantee that your stuff will be there at the finish.
      However, there are TONS of people driving from the start to the finish and I’m sure many of them would be happy to carry a bag to Inlet for you. Just look around at registration.

  34. April 12, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Hey, there are a bunch of us coming up this year on Fat Bikes. How about a separate class for the Fatty’s??

    • BFC
      April 14, 2013 at 11:40 am

      If Fattys and Single Speeds have strong showings for consecutive years we would consider adding categories for them.
      However, the numbers would have to be significant, as in Cyclocross, before we could start paying separate age classes within the categories.

      • Doug
        April 14, 2013 at 4:02 pm

        How about a 9 speed 29er class?

  35. Matt H
    January 23, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Hmmm, Time to register? June is coming right up!

  36. RJ
    July 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Got my Black Fly Challenge jersey. I noticed that both sleeves say
    “Inlet, NY”, but the preview picture had Inlet, NY on one sleeve, and Indian Lake, NY on the other. Are they all like that, or just mine?

    • BFC
      July 20, 2012 at 11:34 pm

      That’s the first we’ve heard of something like that. Every jersey we’ve seen so far has Inlet on one sleeve and Indian Lake on the other.

      • RJ
        July 21, 2012 at 6:34 am

        Huh… I am guessing the jersey was all printed in parts and when they sewed mine together, they accidentally grabbed two Inlet sleeve pieces, instead of an Inlet and an Indian Lake piece. I am wondering if I can return it and get a properly made jersey?

    • BFC
      July 21, 2012 at 4:34 pm

      Contact Shift Cyclewear.

      • RJ
        July 21, 2012 at 7:02 pm

        Thanks! I have emailed them.

  37. BFC
    June 12, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    tandem3 :

    We would love to know if the racer is okay, we stopped and sat with him until the EMTs came and have been thinking of him since.

    We are happy to say that the injured racer’s family says he will be fine and appreciates you for stopping and caring!

  38. BFC
    June 11, 2012 at 11:01 am

    WordPress sites are “standards compliant” but Internet Explorer is not so that may be your problem. Try using another browser.

  39. BFC
    June 10, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    The last report on the injured racer is that he was in stable condition and expected to recover.

  40. rjacob1
    June 10, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Saw a truck with flashing red lights and an ambulence pass me in the opposite direction in the last part of the race. Was someone injured in the race?

    • BFC
      June 10, 2012 at 2:10 pm

      One racer went down hard, suffered a concussion and was transported to Glens Falls Hospital.

      • rjacob1
        June 10, 2012 at 2:27 pm

        Any word on their condition? I hope they are okay!

      • tandem3
        June 10, 2012 at 3:51 pm

        We would love to know if the racer is okay, we stopped and sat with him until the EMTs came and have been thinking of him since.

  41. Jim
    June 7, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Heard the course is a lot dryer this year–choice on tires? stay with knobby or go smooth??

  42. PB
    June 5, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Anyone have any recommendations on what tire pressure to run on a cyclocross bike?

  43. RJ
    June 4, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    At approx what miles will the water stops be located?

    • BFC
      June 4, 2012 at 11:13 pm

      Water stations are at (approximately): 7mi, 11mi, 15mi, 19mi, 24mi, 28mi, 33mi – however, it’s a long race so entrants are expected to carry some water and energy supplies.

  44. DougS
    May 31, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Do us drivers get to partake in the after race BBQ?

    “DON’T FORGET – this is a Destination Race! -Bring someone to drive your vehicle to the post race party in Indian Lake!!!”

    • BFC
      May 31, 2012 at 12:32 pm

      There will be food, beverages (including beer) and music near the finish line. Indian Lake Ambulance Corps is doing the food. We could not do the race without them so PLEASE spend a few bucks at their concession and help support the Indian Lake Ambulance Corps!

  45. BFC
    May 14, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Facebook friend Melissa Stoddard Vaughn posted: “My husband and I will be newbies this year. Any advice?”

    • BFC
      May 14, 2012 at 12:55 pm

      The Black Fly is not a technical mtb trail race but it’s long with lots of hills. Do training rides, fuel your body properly and hydrate properly before, during and after the race.

    • DiRt DeViL
      May 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm

      I’m on the same boat, wonder about the trail in general.

      Can someone describe how the trail is like and how much time an average rider will do it?

  46. Rick
    May 3, 2012 at 11:35 am

    How are the course conditions looking this year? Last year was my first and it was 3 1/4+ hours of muddy hell! Loved it so much I’m coming back!

    • BFC
      May 3, 2012 at 8:46 pm

      There’s no ‘official’ word yet from Inlet, Indian Lake or DEC but the Moose River Plains road is said to be in good shape. Of course rain could soften it up before the race but at this point it’s hard and dry.
      Spring 2012 has been relatively dry compared to 2011, when heavy runoff and torrential rains caused extensive damage to the road. Here’s hoping for a dry, fast race!

  47. BFC
    February 12, 2012 at 2:41 pm


  48. January 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    Murdock……I’m comin’ for you! See y’all in 2012…

  49. Jim
    June 14, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Okay, I feel better now knowing that this was really tough conditions. I finished in 3 & change w/out getting off the bike but I was shot at the end. I know what to expect next year and hats off to all involved.

  50. Cag Man
    June 14, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Great Race ! Conditions like that will show you what your made of. Best time ever ( that is for the results to be posted on-line). Hats off to the organizers ( Gordy + Ted ) and the DEC ( you guys got some road work to do this summer) and all the volunteers, great job under very tough conditions. See you next year !

  51. June 13, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Toughest and most rewarding Black Fly I’ve done. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, passed me on the road as I spun out the 34×16 gear on my 29er singlespeed. Things improved once we got to the dirt and the mud and real climbing started. Finished 19th overall and 4th in mtb class for my best result yet.

  52. Jim
    June 13, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Great race-surprised it was all up-hill!! thanks to all that made it possible. A huge congrads to the racer who broke/lost his chain and ran the bulk of the course in order to finish ahead of the sweeper vehicle–very impressed

    • josh
      June 13, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      That guy was AWSOME and his group was one of the Super Nice people that were able to accomodate my wife and our bikes back to Indian Lake!! I probably would have stopped but he Didn’t That takes dedication!!!

      • Jim
        June 13, 2011 at 3:31 pm

        josh-it was us who gave you the ride–pleasure to me you–hope to see you at the race again next year

  53. owen dougherty
    June 13, 2011 at 10:28 am

    has anyone heard from the rider that went to GF hospital?

    • Phil
      June 13, 2011 at 3:09 pm

      Broken collar bone, broken ribs, punctured lung, but should be ok.

      • Dave
        June 13, 2011 at 7:32 pm

        Phil, was he an Ommegangster?

      • Phil
        June 13, 2011 at 7:39 pm

        Brother in law of an Ommegangster.

  54. Fred
    June 13, 2011 at 6:27 am

    Many thanks to all the volunteers and the DEC for making the race possible! This was my first year and
    really had second thoughts about doing it once we got to Indian Lake. The weather and conditions were awful! What a blast! This race will surely tell you what you’re made of and push you to your limits. Looking forward to next year.

  55. josh pettit
    June 13, 2011 at 12:22 am

    First year doing this race.We ran “cheap” walmart bikes and both completed it. I was beat, brakes were gone on bike
    we missed the afternoon shuttle by 10 mins even though we prepaid and had confirmation for. Disapointed in that as there was no cell service or ride back to indian lake, LUCKILY there were 2 Nice people headed back and were able to accomodate my wife and I and our bikes.
    Great experience will be back next year but will drop off vehicle at Finishline ahead of time and have nicer bikes!!!

  56. Rob
    June 12, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Does anyone know how we can get the pictures the photographers were taking during the race. I would like to have them to show my wife just how crazy this race was! Are they posted to a website or do you have to order them.


  57. Jeff
    June 12, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    I finished shortly before the 5-hour mark, but I’m not listed in the overall results… Who can I talk to about this? It’s not an impressive result time, but I’m pretty happy with it for my first ever bike race. I wanna show it off a bit.

    • June 12, 2011 at 9:15 pm

      Are you sure your timing chip was still on your helmet? I saw a few on the course.

      • Jeff
        June 13, 2011 at 1:32 pm

        Yeah, it’s still on my helmet right now.

  58. Jim
    June 12, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    First timer. Had a great time soggy weather and all, the hill and the flies were a true challenge. See you next year. Great job.

  59. RT
    June 12, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Terrible weather, poor course conditions, and a great time! Terrific volunteers, fast results and awards, and an incredible job that everyone did to get the course in the best shape one could expect. Looking forward to a faster time next year! RT

  60. kl
    June 11, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    What a great Race this year! My third time, and I’ve never seen conditions so horrible.

    However, the racers all had wonderul attitudes despite the conditions – supportive of one another, and helpful. Really fun to be around!

    Most importantly, sincere thanks and awe need to go out to the volunteers – standing in the rain with bugs everywhere, to help us all along our way. You guys are *GREAT*!!!


  61. mike
    June 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    First year doing the Blackfly. I know that there are a bunch of water stops, but is there anything else at these, or are we on our own for nutrition ?

    • June 8, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      As it says on the FAQ’s page, “There are usually 6 water stations along the route but it’s a long race with plenty of elevation changes, so plan to carry some water and energy supplies.”

  62. josh pettit
    June 1, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    These are the bike my wife and I are riding. Are these going to work ok?
    my wifes is a schwinn avenue
    mine is this thanks for help here!!

    • matt dickinson
      June 8, 2011 at 11:05 am

      Not all bikes are created equal. In your case, those walmart bikes are a liability at best. Poorly built, poorly assembled and dangerous for this event. I hope you are lucky enough to ride nearly 30 miles of rugged dirt roads with no major catastrophes. Good luck. Stop into Pedals and Petals to see if they can give those bikes a quick once over to make sure they are up to the challenge.

      • josh
        June 13, 2011 at 9:25 pm

        finished the race with the “cheap” bikes breaks were gunked up with mud and bent a derailler due to a roadflare wire kicking up off road and getting caught but over all bikes were good and are back together and riding again!!!

  63. Eric
    June 1, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Good Evening Everyone!

    A friend of mine and I are looking forward to the race next weekend but missed out on the shuttle back to Indian Lake. Is there anyone riding that will be returning to Indian Lake on Saturday afternoon and would have room for two more riders and bikes?

    Thanks for the help!

    Eric Heck

    • Willow Toso
      June 4, 2011 at 7:54 am

      Hi Eric
      We also missed out on the shuttle, but could coordinate something where we pick you up from Inlet in the morning and then you drive us back after the race. Or visa versa. You can e-mail me at willowwinona(at)yahoo if you’d like to coordinate something.

  64. Ben
    May 26, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    Hey all, I just discovered this race and am very interested. What’s up with the shuttle(s)? AM is full but afternoon isn’t? Wouldn’t one only need to take a shuttle in AM from finish to start (assuming you’re leaving car at finish). I’d be driving from CT by myself so need to understand logistics. Thanks.

    • May 27, 2011 at 1:20 am

      Some people leave their car at the start and take the shuttle back from the finish. And some people just go to the start and look for someone to drive their car to the finish.

    • Jim H
      June 8, 2011 at 7:19 am

      Hey ben…did u find a ride yet….i think my ride back to the start just dropped me…maybe we can work something out…….I plan on leaving Albany around 5:30-6:00 am……Jim H

  65. Bruce Gerould
    May 25, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    I have not recieved confiramation of my registration yet, where can i inquire about this.

    • May 25, 2011 at 6:06 pm

      BFC does not send registration confirmations. In fact, you are only contacted if your registration info is incomplete. However, we will check for your name the next time the registration database is open. If you’re not in there we’ll get back to you.

    April 7, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    were can i get a list of places to stay

    • April 8, 2011 at 12:43 am

      The race ends in Inlet this year and Screamen Eagle/Matt’s Draft House is having a band that night so the Marina Motel, the Parquet Hotel and Woods Inn are good options for anyone planning to have a few after the race.

  67. andrew
    April 4, 2011 at 8:52 am

    I am planning on attending with a full suspension ride because thats what I have!

    I can lock it out tho… would that be recommended? I plan to find a nice rolling tire to use… and recommendations?

    • Q
      April 5, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      I rode last year with a Santa Cruz Superlight with the RP23 (lockout). There were way more people there riding mtn. bikes then I expected. I also used a loose dirt/gravel tire – can’t remember what brand but if you’d like to know I’ll take a look and reply.

    • John
      April 5, 2011 at 7:19 pm

      This will be my first year doing Black Fly, in terms of a tire I just picked up a set of Bontrager Jones 1.8″ tires for my 29er. They defiantly roll fast!

  68. Chad Hiatt
    April 3, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Has anybody ever attempted this on a road bike? I’m not familiar with the course, but if the single track at the end was packed enough it seems possible. Thoughts from previous racers?

    • Phil
      April 3, 2011 at 4:49 pm

      I’d advise against it. If you could get some 70×28’s with a winter or CX style tread to fit in your fork, you might pull it off, but you’ll see ‘cross bikes and MTB’s for the most part. I saw someone start on a road bike a couple of years ago and thought it was pretty cool, but then they flatted. The rocks can get pretty big out there when you’re bombing down the hills. 700×32’s on a CX bike works great if you want to go fast.

  69. andrew
    February 7, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    how technical is the route? is it fire roads or technical single track?

    • February 8, 2011 at 1:29 am

      This year the race goes from Indian Lake to Inlet. You can read the course description here but the quick description is: some paved road (app 8mi), mostly gravel roads (app 28mi), another 1.5mi paved road, then about 1 to 1.5mi of easy to intermediate trails to the finish. The gravel roads aren’t technical but can be quite fast and loose.

  70. January 24, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Time to put Saturday June 11 on your calendar! The 16th running of the BFC starts in Indian Lake and finishes at Inlet’s Fern Park.

  71. RJ
    June 16, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    I got my race report written if anyone wants to read it here.

  72. RJ
    June 16, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    I had a blast at this race. Are there any other similar type races within reasonable driving distance from Western NY? I have done The Ramble Around Prattsburg race and that was a lot of fun. Any others?

    • June 10, 2011 at 10:00 pm

      Check out Race With the Wind, in Lowville, Tug Hill Plateau area. I did it two years ago… Not sure if they are running it in 2011. If you can travel to Massachusetts, there’s the Deerfield Dirt Road Randonee (D2R2), which isn’t technically a race–but it’s awesome!

  73. Steve
    June 15, 2010 at 10:07 am

    I find it interesting that I finished 2nd in the Beginner 30-39 male category to a person who finished 40 minutes ahead of me. Only to be looking through the photos and see the race number of that person on the front of a cross bike? Just an interesting observation.

    • Rob
      June 15, 2010 at 10:27 am

      Yeah, that does sort look like a cyclocross bike doesn’t it.

    • June 15, 2010 at 10:39 am

      Steve, you are correct. Somehow Phil McCarthy got bumped from Cyclocross to Beginner. It must have happened in the results sorting process because we know Phil registered as Cyclocross.
      With so many bikes crossing the line we can’t know if something is wrong unless someone tells us – that’s the reason for the protest period. For whatever reason Phil didn’t let us know during the protest period that he was in the wrong category but to his credit he also did not collect a prize for the inadvertent placement.
      We are correcting the final results and hope to post them today. So the Beginner Men’s 30-39 is 1) Steve Stearns; 2) Greg Hammond; 3) Jamie Campbell. All three are welcome to stop into Pedals & Petals so Ted can arrange for the proper prizes.

      • SkinnyPhil
        June 16, 2010 at 3:37 pm

        Sorry I missed the error during the protest period. Unfortunately my wife picked me up right after the race and needed to be in Lake Placid to get her race packet for the Half Marathon the next day. TRUST me, I wish I had noticed since I missed out on a $50 prize. The money doesn’t matter, but if my standings in the results could be corrected, that would be great.

      • June 16, 2010 at 5:25 pm

        Actually Phil, I think Beginner 1st place is a $75 merchandise prize! Cyclocross 3rd place is $50. Thanks for the post and the great race reports.

  74. Steve Relles
    June 14, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    In case anyone is interested, I’ve done a bit-too-wordy write-up of my own, twisted, one-wheeled Black Fly 2010 experience.

  75. June 14, 2010 at 7:34 am

    Great race and a huge thanks to all the volunteers! This was my first Black Fly, doubt it will be the last. I’m going to try to get a write-up on my blog over the next week or so.

    Does anybody know what caused the one DQ?

    • June 14, 2010 at 10:55 am

      One racer was disqualified for not wearing a helmet.

      • DougS
        June 14, 2010 at 11:25 am

        I am surprised the guy that went left of the cones at the finish and sprinted past a bunch of other racers wasn’t DQ’ed

      • June 14, 2010 at 11:49 am

        Two people went outside the cones at the finish line. One turned around and went back over the finish line, the other received a DNF.

  76. Steve Relles
    June 13, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    Great race, and HUGE THANK YOU to all the hardy volunteers!

    Steve (the unicyclist)

  77. AR
    June 13, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Does anyone know if photos of the race are available? I saw quite a few photographers on the course.

    • June 13, 2010 at 3:20 pm

      We will post photos of the start here on in the next few days and more photos as they become available. Also, Inner Mountain Sports Photography was taking photos which will be available at their website.

  78. Chris Welch
    June 13, 2010 at 7:59 am

    I travel all the way from Indiana to do this race. It is one of my favorite events all year. It is very challenging, a lot of fun and exceptionally well organized – and very pretty if you take the time to look up. Thanks to everyone who makes it possible. See you again next year!

  79. scott martin
    June 10, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    ..the weather forecast doesn’t look great (“storms likely finishing by 11 am”).

    Will the race be delayed if the weather is poor at the start time? If thunderstorms come in during the race will it be stopped?

    … and perhaps most appropriately, how bad is the mud going to be after most of a week of rain. I recall it being pretty sandy out through there.

  80. Bart
    June 7, 2010 at 11:33 am

    first timer wondering if there is any singletrack or if it’s all logging/mountain roads. trying to decide what tires to use. Thanks

  81. Slick
    June 4, 2010 at 6:43 am

    Okay, joking aside, exactly how bad are the bugs? I’m a wimp when it comes to getting eaten alive.

    • RJ
      June 4, 2010 at 7:07 am

      I haven’t done this race before, but I have done a trail race in the area. When the black flies are bad, they are really bad! Spray yourself with good strong bug spray and you will be fine. Don’t forget the back of your neck.

  82. FKlein
    June 3, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    What time is good to be in Indian Lake if you are racing and where to you get your #’s.

    • FKlein
      June 3, 2010 at 6:29 pm

      Don’t reply, found answer.

  83. Mark Cook
    June 3, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    I am a 1st timer for this event, beginner MT biker. I have everyone I think I need, except tool kit. Any recommendations on tool kit?

    • RJ
      June 3, 2010 at 2:51 pm

      What I carry is a cheap little basic bike tool that I got at Harbor Frieght. I also carry a couple Pedro’s tire levers, a Microflate tire inflater along with a couple CO2 cartridges, and a couple spare tubes.

  84. AR
    June 1, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Is there an option for day-of-race registration?

    • June 1, 2010 at 3:50 pm

      BFC 2010 race day registration is 8a.m. – 10a.m. at Inlet Town Hall.

  85. John S
    May 31, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    How well is the route marked? And is there anything special to carry besides the usual – food, water, tools?

  86. RJ
    May 28, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Are there any rules against using an mp3 player? I didn’t see anything.

    • May 30, 2010 at 12:04 pm

      MP3 players should not be used during the race.

  87. eric
    May 27, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    mailed my check some time ago… Is anyone else getting slow response to registration? is there a way to contact anyone to verify the registration was recieved?

    • May 29, 2010 at 1:11 pm

      Registrations are simply added to the database. We don’t send confirmations. If your check was cashed then you’re registered.

  88. Vince
    May 24, 2010 at 11:33 am

    I am camping at Limekiln-can I leave my car overnight at Indian Lake-plan to ride the course backwards the day before?

  89. Tequila Doug
    May 14, 2010 at 8:46 am

    I planned to race my 29er mountain bike in the Expert Mountain bike catagory, but someone told me I would have to enter CX being I am not a 26inch mtn bike. Is this true?

  90. Gary Gelvin
    May 13, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    I read in the newspaper today that the road will be closed this year due to budget restrictions. How will this impact the running of the event??

    • May 13, 2010 at 4:52 pm

      DEC approved the Black Fly TRP (permit) before the current budget issues surfaced and has stated that the Black Fly will be allowed to happen.

  91. Steve Relles
    April 8, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Are there any support/water/food stations on the Black Fly route?

    • April 9, 2010 at 12:13 pm

      There are 5 or 6 water stations but it’s a long route so racers should have a hydrapack or water bottle(s) as well. Also, bring your own race energy supplies. There will be a food vendor at the post race venue.

  92. mitch of hell
    March 21, 2010 at 5:56 am

    Is there a single speed category for 2010?

    • March 21, 2010 at 12:11 pm

      No, single speeds would be in the mtb category.

  93. February 11, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Welcome to the new Black Fly website.

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